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I’m up to page 82/153 in retyping Butterfly. Three pages are typed per session. With my health issues, it’s difficult to get everything I want to do done. I don’t write as much as I’d like. I particularly don’t get far with posting updates. Today has been a more productive day for me than usual. So, here’s the update.
One of the things I’m working on now is informing people state by state of where they stand with water cremation, POST or MOST forms and AI data centers. All three of these agendas have gone forward with little or no public feedback. I started with Indiana, which is set to have a whopping 72 AI data centers. I plan to do Florida next. Here is some information on Indiana:
Water Cremation (Indiana) legalized on July 1, 2025. The argument seems to be mainly about carbon footprint. I suspect land conservation is also a motivation since burial has to cause less of a carbon footprint than water cremation. The water cremation process destroys the DNA of the flesh and softens the bones. The softened bones are then cremated. Traditional cremation can have bone fragments which may contain DNA or the process can destroy the DNA. I’m unsure whether any DNA can be left behind in water cremation. The liquefied flesh is then disposed of as medical waste and the cremated remains are dealt with as the people with legal authority over the remains see fit. A major problem I see with this is that ultimately the living will choose how the remains of the dead are treated. While I would prefer to see the legal status of water cremation repealed in Indiana, in the very least this option should only be allowed if a living person chooses it with a notarized signature before their death. Neither the state nor the estate of the deceased should be able to use this option if the deceased in question didn’t give permission via notarized signature for it before their death. Instead, only prior options such as burial should be permissible. The state should also respect the sanctity of cemeteries no matter how valuable the land is.

POST (Indiana) Physician Orders for Scope of Treatment active as of July 1, 2013.
The POST form from Indiana is voluntary and based on the current health level of the patient. Patients who fit the following criteria qualify: “A qualified person is an individual who has at least one (1) of the following:
(1) An advanced chronic progressive illness.
(2) An advanced chronic progressive frailty.
(3) A condition caused by injury, disease, or illness from which, to a reasonable degree of medical certainty:
(A) there can be no recovery; and
(B) death will occur from the condition within a short period without the provision of life prolonging procures.
(4) A medical condition that, if the person were to suffer cardiac or pulmonary failure, resuscitation would be unsuccessful or within a short period the person would experience repeated cardiac or pulmonary failure resulting in death.”

“A patient with capacity or their legal representative may void a POST form at any time by communicating that intent to the health care provider.” The form allows a breathing patient with a pulse to forego antibiotics, water and food. Medical professionals are directed to offer food and water by mouth “if feasible.” The POST form is administered by the patient’s physician. The form requires the patient’s signature or legal representative’s signature and the physician’s signature, though there is no mention of it being notarized.
https://www.indianapost.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Indiana-POST-Form.pdf

The POST form goes beyond a DNR. If the form is only partially filled out, consent to everything on the form is implied. Obviously an unconscious person who is alone can’t void the form. Medical care professionals are expected to fulfill the desires of the patient expressed in the form. Qualification includes the sick and disabled not just the terminally ill. The term “short period” is not defined. This is really assisted suicide through starvation, dying of thirst and infection, and that’s if the patient has capacity at the time the previously signed form is implemented.

AI Data centers (Indiana) Indiana is set to have 72 AI data centers. They are massive in size, massive in causing pollution to the air and water and require a massive amount of energy and water to run. Odd that some of the data centers are being built by people who claim to be environmentalists. Human beings are already losing jobs to AI. It is not hard to imagine we will soon be competing with AI for resources we need to survive such as energy. water, space for housing and farmland for food production. Has anyone done a feasibility study to see if we can support our current human population and the intended AI data centers? Is there currently any regulation?
https://www.citact.org/ai-data-centers

I’ve started the arduous process of reading the “Bipartisan House Task Force Report on Artificial Intelligence.” https://republicans-science.house.gov/_cache/files/a/a/aa2ee12f-8f0c-46a3-8ff8-8e4215d6a72b/6676530F7A30F243A24E254F6858233A.ai-task-force-report-final.pdf
I’m going to make notes as I slog through this largely incomprehensible piece of propaganda. (Page iii):
The opening letter tells us that AI could improve the economy and society. Anticipated successes are more efficient manufacturing, increased productivity and cures for diseases. The letter allows that AI can be “misused” and cause “harm.” No specifics are given. The letter then references the credentials of the contributors to the report. “In summary, this report encapsulates a targeted approach that balances the need to promote vibrant AI innovation while safeguarding Americans from potential harms as we enter an era of widespread adoption of AI.”
My thoughts: Clearly, the end goal is widespread adoption of AI. The consequences, unspecified, will be dealt with as they come up. That’s why I call it propaganda as the report’s purpose is to convince people to accept moving forward with AI. No discussion required. Increased productivity and more efficient manufacturing usually lead to less jobs and poorer working conditions for the worker, who will now be competing with AI for employment. What jobs will be left for human beings and how many? AI clearly benefits corporations over workers. The letter mentions cures for diseases but fails to mention the potential diseases caused by AI data center pollution. We will see if the report continues to be vague and obtuse as it continues.

Thank you for reading this. I thought people needed to be informed.
Please pray that this prayer effort bears good fruit according to God’s will. Please pray for God’s intervention. The more prayer and the more people informed the better. Thank you for your time and may God bless you,

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Why Do Government Policies Seem to End in Death?

One of the fallouts from people’s discretionary income being taken away from them due to inflation is that things regular people used to do to support society through charity and responsible pet ownership also goes away. Back in the time of Henry VIII, Henry VIII declared himself the head of the church then raided the monasteries. The monasteries supported the poor; Henry VIII and elites who profited from the money seized did not.

It seems every time the government volunteers to replace the philanthropy of the people and do the job itself, it fails. They don’t want to use the money for the people it was allocated for — they want to use it on themselves and for their own agendas. Very quickly it becomes their money. The intended recipients become a burden they can’t afford to support. Soon, like a corrupt person who takes money in the form of a loan from a third party, they begin to think if that person weren’t around they wouldn’t need to repay. You can see that in healthcare and in Social Security. In health care, there are the POST (POLST) and MOST (MOLST) forms in most states all over the country, which encourage the chronically ill or those not anticipated to live past a set period of time to forgo things like antibiotics, food, and water. For example, New York’s MOLST form states, “This Medical Orders for Life-Sustaining Treatment (MOLST) form is generally for patients with advanced illness who require long-term care services

and/or who might die within 1-2 years.* The MOLST may also be used for individuals who wish to avoid and/or receive specific life-sustaining treatments.”

Criteria differs per state. Many require some sort of signature from the patient, even if it’s just an e-signature. Some states like Alaska and Tennessee only require the physician (or in some cases certain other health care professionals) to sign the form. In Tennessee, the criteria for signing away a patient’s life by a health care professional is that the professional wouldn’t be surprised if the patient died within a set period of time. The Tennessee POST form reads: “POST is not for everyone, but is designed for seriously ill or frail patients who wish to limit treatment in some way. To determine whether a POST should be considered, clinicians should ask themselves: “Would I be surprised if this patient died or lost decision-making capacity in the next year”? If the answer is, “No I would not be surprised,” then a goals-of-care discussion and advance care planning with POST is appropriate to consider. Each treatment on the form should be evaluated and discussed based on what, if any, benefit it has for the patient.”

Some of the forms, even those that insist on a patient’s signature, nevertheless allow the frail or the chronically ill to opt for euthanasia on the basis that basically their lives are just not worth living. Needless to say, I expect pressure is applied to these people to opt for death. It really was a macabre experience when I stumbled across this information. These forms managed to make it through state legislatures through most of the states in the county without my being aware of them. I personally would never want to live in a state where the patient’s signature is not required. But I’m dubious of e-signatures as well. If a signature doesn’t have to be witnessed and/or can’t be verified then what good is it?

The Tennessee form includes the following:

“The POST form is not intended to replace an advance directive, but can be used for seriously ill patients, even if they do not have an advance directive. It is recommended that patients with a life-limiting illness have two (2) documents: Advance directive that includes appointment of a health care agent (also called a power of attorney for health care (3) and scenario-based treatment directives POST (Physician Orders for Scope of Treatment)”

Notice the words are intended and recommended not required.

Tennessee POST form reads:  “The POST from may be prepared by any health care professional. To be valid, the form

must be signed by a physician, or at discharge from a hospital or long term care facility by a nurse practitioner (NP), clinical nurse specialist (CNS), or physician assistant (PA). Verbal orders are acceptable with follow-up signature by the physician in accordance with facility/community policy. The preparer should fill out the health care professional information on the front of the form. The professional who signs the POST form is assuming full responsibility for the medical orders and attests that these orders are an accurate reflection of the patient’s current treatment preferences.”

Tennessee POST form reads: “Patient or Surrogate Signature

Tennessee is one of a few states that does not require the patient or surrogate to sign the POST form. However providers are strongly encouraged to have the patient or surrogate, as appropriate, sign it, due to increasing concerns about Tennessee POST forms not being honored in states requiring patient signatures.”

“Health care facilities are also required to honor specific orders contained in the POST. The POST form itself can serve as the order set, or new orders consistent with those on the POST form can be written, per facility policy.

Specifically for first responders, the Board for Licensing Health Care Facilities has defined the Emergency Medical Technicians (EMT) and Para-Medic Scope of Practice so that Tennessee-certified First Responder or EMT are required to comply with POST forms appropriately executed if signed on discharge from a hospital or long term care facility (by a physician, nurse practitioner, clinical nurse specialist, or physician assistant).”

You can read more about the Tennessee POLST form here:

Here are the signature requirements per state, which was last updated on February 28, 2022:

Meanwhile, people are abandoning their dogs in dog parks. And the number of strays is increasing. The shelter system is overwhelmed. People increasingly can’t afford their own pets, can’t afford to adopt pets, and I suspect can’t afford to fix their pets. Eventually, they will begin rounding up these cats and dogs and putting them to death — if they haven’t already. Death is the solution that is their ultimate answer to everything. Let the problem get so bad that the public just wants the problem to go away. Then, they introduce death as the solution. Increasingly, it’s becoming a solution people are willing to live with.

(Gibson, 2024)

Gibson, K. (2024, January 9). “Animal shelters are overwhelmed by abandoned dogs. Here’s why.” CBS News. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/animal-shelters-overwhelmed-by-abandoned-dogs/

Michaels, 2023)

Michaels, D. (2023, December 12). “Owner Dumped His Dog Alone In The Park With A ‘Heartbreaking’ Note.” I Heart Dogs. https://iheartdogs.com/owner-dumped-his-dog-alone-in-the-park-with-a-heartbreaking-note/

(Molina Acosta, 2023)

Molina Acosta, C. (2023, January 4).  “Pets are being given up by people who can’t afford to keep them.” NPR. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/04/1146866246/pets-are-being-given-up-by-people-who-cant-afford-to-keep-them

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